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(@death_reincarnated)
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Since the last time I played I think everything is quite fine the way it is. The one big impact on this game is the fact that everyone is leveled up to maximum in every class and that there are too many medics. Regardless of the changes that were made, medic class is by far the most utilised, mainly not to support team mates but to self heal and get fraggs.

Looks like every change we do is to make the smg/medic be the only alternative to play this game….seriously this is where it feels like its going all the time. Always everything revolves around medic class and changes have to be reasonable with that regard.

Things are alwasy skewed because of the medics class..I SAY GET RID OF IT! …and watch the GG roll like 12″ dinner at subway.


   
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(@overmars)
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You’re also forgetting the fact that almost EVERYONE can see mines. You see it and still step on it then it’s either very well placed or you weren’t paying attention. Either way …


   
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(@stinger)
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reset evry1’s xp and then make a cap at 5000 or less.


   
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(@blusky)
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I don’t think there can be a balance unless XP is reset in a constant time frame, I would be against this because it’s what makes OZ fun. To be honest I don’t really think there is a possible change that could be made without utterly breaking the medic class and game dynamics.

I don’t really have a problem with mine damage but then again I don’t really see a reason as to why it was increased. Even if everything was defaulted and XP was reset – the medic class would still appear to reign supreme because the good players tend to play the class.

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(@frogma)
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I’m gonna have to disagree with you skanky, you seem to care only about the medic class with your comments. I think people overestimate medics because good players use them, so why should good players be penalised for being good? E.g. the illusion comes when an enemy team has 42 engys and 1 medic, a player gets killed by the medic 3 times in a row, suddenly it’s “fucking medicss are overpowered!!!” rather than “fucking frogma is overpowered!!!”.

The fact that medics have more health is offset by the fact they can’t call arty, they can’t shoot grenades/plant mines/dynamite, they can’t change uniforms or spot mines etc. So surviving mines are meant to be a strength that medics have just like how bulbasaur is strong against a squirtle. You can’t take that away just because good players are medics.

Anyway there are way too many spots that can be completely blocked with mines for you to be raising mine damage. I’ve seen you do it skanky. Even if that might not give you thousands of kills like you wet dream over, it still prevents enemies from going that way which is huge.

Back to my earlier proposal… why not make sten deal the same damage as mp40? and why not return FG to default? why is it not already? and then to say sorry make it more powerful than default.


   
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(@skankymoe)
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I’m gonna have to disagree with you skanky

LOL I wouldnt expect anything less froggy ๐Ÿ™‚

you seem to care only about the medic class with your comments

Cmon thats not true, start from the first post and follow it all. I addressed a comment from “nelots”
I shouldnt have to say my comments are for him only within the thread.

I think people overestimate medics because good players use them

Disagree with you, the usual suspects are always medic slurrys and dont play other classes nor care about objectives.

why should good players be penalised for being good

Well there not all as crash hot as you make out, when we disabled self healing and lowered regen
almost off of the usual suspects suddenly turned to shit even though they had their 156HP still.
Personaly its all about run pack pack that is the real issue about medics nerfing the general game play.

there are way too many spots that can be completely blocked with mines for you to be raising mine damage

LOL what a load of bollocks

Even if that might not give you thousands of kills like you wet dream over

LOL now your prooving you dont have much to argue about if thats your angle, Sif I care about frags lol, I play objective ftw.

Back to my earlier proposal… why not make sten deal the same damage as mp40?

Fare question, I cant answer that right now, But Im happy to address it and suggest we try it out, I dont have a problem with that.

and why not return FG to default?

Fare question, I cant answer that right now, But Im happy to address it and suggest we try it out, I dont have a problem with that.

and then to say sorry make it more powerful than default

HUH ? Is that bobbla speak/QQ ? Or an actual question ? Im easily confused lol

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(@morbit)
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set g_dmgknife “25”
set g_dmgsten “14”
set g_dmgfg42 “15”
set g_dmgpistol “18”
set g_dmgsmg “18”
set g_dmgmg42 “18”
set g_dmgMG “20”
set g_dmgFG42Scope “30”
set g_dmgInfRifle “34”
set g_dmgSniper “50”
set g_dmgFlamer “5”
set g_dmggrenade “250”
set g_dmgGlauncher “250”
set g_dmgLandmine “250”
set g_dmgSatchel “250”
set g_dmgPanzer “400”
set g_dmgMortar “400”
set g_dmgDynamite “400”
set g_dmgAir “320”
set g_dmgArty “320”
set g_dmggrenaderadius “250”
set g_dmgGlauncherradius “250”
set g_dmgLandmineRadius “250”
set g_dmgSatchelRadius “250”
set g_dmgPanzerRadius “280”
set g_dmgMortarRadius “300”
set g_dmgDynamiteRadius “400”
set g_dmgArtyRadius “300”
set g_throwableknives “12”
set g_maxknives “12”
set g_knifedamage “40”
set g_throwknifewait “1.0”

all mostly default!

and too stir the possum

set g_medics “193”
set g_medicHealthRegen “10”
set g_fear “1250 // currently way too long

Everyone else has been ok with it to the best of my knowlege, I havent heard anyone QQ’n in game about mine damage and its been set like so for 7 weeks now.

people not complaining about mine damage? what server ya playin on man lol i hear it all the time 250 is default use have gone straight too 400 like what use did wid adren for meds made it extremely high then completely removed it because ppl complained , this time lets just meet half way on this one, how bout 300?
if not leave mine as is and give default regen to meds and default adren

oh and someone said they thought sten was same strength as smg, it is actually weaker by default but has a lot less spread (more acurate)

kk go ๐Ÿ˜‰

All the ways you wish you could be, that’s me. I look like you wanna look, I f*#k like you wanna f*#k, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.


   
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(@skankymoe)
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this time lets just meet half way on this one, how bout 300

Hmm, Thats a fare suggestion, Im reasonable, Done Deal ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Server has been updated as per your suggestion, Hope everyone is happy about the compromise regarding mine damage now ?

6:15:11 PM:> g_dmgLandmine
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“g_dmgLandmine” is:”300″ default:”250″

Cheers ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Game Is For Pew Pew And Forums Is For QQ


   
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(@morbit)
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well done!! i like an is happy!!!

possible for fear suggestion and med suggestion to be considered?

oooh oooh and dmgknife 25 “see last post”

๐Ÿ˜‰

All the ways you wish you could be, that’s me. I look like you wanna look, I f*#k like you wanna f*#k, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.


   
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(@skankymoe)
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well done!! i like an is happy!!!

possible for fear suggestion and med suggestion to be considered?

oooh oooh and dmgknife 25 “see last post”

๐Ÿ˜‰

Welcome and yes I will discuss your suggested settings with the powers to be and will recomend a trial period be set and shall get back to ya all.

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(@morbit)
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well done!! i like an is happy!!!

possible for fear suggestion and med suggestion to be considered?

oooh oooh and dmgknife 25 “see last post”

๐Ÿ˜‰

Welcome and yes I will discuss your suggested settings with the powers to be and will recomend a trial period be set and shall get back to ya all.

thats awesome , thank you very much!! job well done skank!!!

All the ways you wish you could be, that’s me. I look like you wanna look, I f*#k like you wanna f*#k, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.


   
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(@frogma)
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Posts: 613
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and then to say sorry make it more powerful than default

HUH ? Is that bobbla speak/QQ ? Or an actual question ? Im easily confused lol

Nah that was a legit request, since FG has been doing less damage than default you should make it do more damage than default to say sorry to all the covies out there.

I wont argue the other things you said since you had some reasonable comments and I’m happy with the change to 300dmg for mines.

cheers bud.


   
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(@skankymoe)
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thats awesome , thank you very much!! job well done skank!!!

Welcome, Thanks for suggestions, feedback and happiness with compromise.

why not make sten deal the same damage as mp40?

Ok, lets check it out, DONE. It not garanteed perm its a trial ok.

7:13:53 PM:> g_dmgsten
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“g_dmgSten” is:”18″ default:”14″

why not return FG to default?

Ok, lets check it out, DONE. It not garanteed perm its a trial ok.

7:15:50 PM:> g_dmgfg42
———————-
“g_dmgFG42″ is:”15″ default:”15”

oooh oooh and dmgknife 25 “see last post

Ok, lets check it out, DONE. It not garanteed perm its a trial ok.

7:17:35 PM:> g_dmgknife
———————–
“g_dmgKnife” is:”25″ default:”10″

Ok guys, so as above those nominated settings are updated and live on the server now.
Like I said, its trial and evaluation, I’ll look for comments and feedback on both game server and this post.
Oh and can I ask, While Im trying to help you guys out, can you help me out, tell people on server to come and
check out this post regarding changes and server settings suggestions being tested, If they like or hate this
is where people have a voice that is listened too, I cant promise or garantee to remember everything said to
me in the game server pending on ones given state of mind at any period in time but I always catch things here.

Let me know what yall thinks and how it goes, Cheers ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Game Is For Pew Pew And Forums Is For QQ


   
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(@blusky)
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BRB GOING STEN WILL EDIT WITH FEEDBACK

half your skill is in your config


   
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(@joke-d)
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Trial it for a week cos some of us dont have that much time to play

If you wanted to be my friend you wouldnt say i have pooey pants

NickelKroegerBack or GTFO!


   
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