I have recently encountered an issue where automation of a small business would in my opinion face to face with the client, would be easiest for me to understand their business.. My Question is whether I just request they come in and have some red tea and discuss the process’s in the their business that can be automated. OR, should I just try and communicate as much as possible via email/telephone? Should I pherhaps just research the working of a business and try to understand what they are exactly dealing with myself?
Kind Regards, BR

In that situation you must always visit the clients premises to understand the daily operations of their staff and plan a detailed IPO before starting the actual coding process.
You should always research the clients inner business and work around what they’re use to, also canvas the office to see what the operators are expecting, ideas or possible modifications they may require.

Thankyou very much for that, so is that what a normal coder has to do, go out to a premises, make an analysis and then code or setup a system from there, or do coders usually just do the coding section, who does those other sections if its not the coder?

Kind Regards, BR

Thankyou very much for that, so is that what a normal coder has to do, go out to a premises, make an analysis and then code or setup a system from there, or do coders usually just do the coding section, who does those other sections if its not the coder?
Kind Regards, BR

The coder does everything, from the initial research to the final implementation and support if required. You may hire someone else to help with some processes but it’s essential that you understand what you are trying to do because failure to do so will transpire to situations where the requirements of the project not being met which results in wasted time patching things up.
Just remember a good preparation is the key and it’ll show the client how professional and thorough you are which leads to further projects and/or word of mouth promotions.

totally agree with cheekz on this one. Make sure you visit these guys and establish a relationship with them. Just because what you are doing is tech stuff doesnt mean you don’t need to talk to people. Email is almost guaranteed to cause misunderstandings.

BR – I strongly recommend that you spend time with these people and then put together a formal statement of work (SOW). This will contain all the stuff you are going to do for them and how much you are going to charge. Thats what we get from contractors / consultants when they come in to work at my place.

Thankyou very much for that, so is that what a normal coder has to do, go out to a premises, make an analysis and then code or setup a system from there, or do coders usually just do the coding section, who does those other sections if its not the coder?
Kind Regards, BR

The coder does everything, from the initial research to the final implementation and support if required. You may hire someone else to help with some processes but it’s essential that you understand what you are trying to do because failure to do so will transpire to situations where the requirements of the project not being met which results in wasted time patching things up.
Just remember a good preparation is the key and it’ll show the client how professional and thorough you are which leads to further projects and/or word of mouth promotions.

Ok, I have actually begun to try and organise some dates and times for seeing their business setup. Thankyou very much for the heads up nelots.

totally agree with cheekz on this one. Make sure you visit these guys and establish a relationship with them. Just because what you are doing is tech stuff doesnt mean you don’t need to talk to people. Email is almost guaranteed to cause misunderstandings.

BR – I strongly recommend that you spend time with these people and then put together a formal statement of work (SOW). This will contain all the stuff you are going to do for them and how much you are going to charge. Thats what we get from contractors / consultants when they come in to work at my place.

Ok, I was unsure of this, I am also currently unsure of the status of making a SOW, when being under 18? I shouldn’t have to worry about this in 4 months time, however just covering ground and want to keep my bases safe. All I know currently is that there are some legal agreements I cannot agree to being a minor still, and I am assuming that the SOW is a legal document. I have not found any Australian information legal information on this yet, anyone shed some light.. (also due to being speed limited and taking 20 minutes to load any page 🙁 ). Thankyou for the recommendation.

Kind Regards, BR

Ok, I was unsure of this, I am also currently unsure of the status of making a SOW, when being under 18? I shouldn’t have to worry about this in 4 months time, however just covering ground and want to keep my bases safe. All I know currently is that there are some legal agreements I cannot agree to being a minor still, and I am assuming that the SOW is a legal document. I have not found any Australian information legal information on this yet, anyone shed some light.. (also due to being speed limited and taking 20 minutes to load any page 🙁 ). Thankyou for the recommendation.
Kind Regards, BR

From my understanding SOW is just a detailed contract between the two parties which specifies the ‘who, what, when and where’ of the works to be undertaken.
As for the age factor, are you undergoing the works as an individual or under a business with an ABN, etc???
If you are under a business then just get the holder of business to sign off on the SOW or one of your parents should suffice but just remember whoever signs it is legally liable for anything you may cause.
If you are undergoing the works as an individual then I guess you can get away without it until you turn 18 but make sure the clients know what you will be doing.

Ok, I was unsure of this, I am also currently unsure of the status of making a SOW, when being under 18? I shouldn’t have to worry about this in 4 months time, however just covering ground and want to keep my bases safe. All I know currently is that there are some legal agreements I cannot agree to being a minor still, and I am assuming that the SOW is a legal document. I have not found any Australian information legal information on this yet, anyone shed some light.. (also due to being speed limited and taking 20 minutes to load any page 🙁 ). Thankyou for the recommendation.
Kind Regards, BR

From my understanding SOW is just a detailed contract between the two parties which specifies the ‘who, what, when and where’ of the works to be undertaken.
As for the age factor, are you undergoing the works as an individual or under a business with an ABN, etc???
If you are under a business then just get the holder of business to sign off on the SOW or one of your parents should suffice but just remember whoever signs it is legally liable for anything you may cause.
If you are undergoing the works as an individual then I guess you can get away without it until you turn 18 but make sure the clients know what you will be doing.

Aye before any work commences ect.. either a phone call or a detailed email is sent across with verification to continue or begin a project / task. Once I am 18, I plan to get an ABN and then set my SOW’s under that, to my understanding.

Thankyou for all your help!

Kind Regards, BR