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(@nelots)
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“Nintendo pirate to pay $1.5m

A Queensland man will have to pay Nintendo $1.5 million in damages after illegally copying and uploading one of its new games to the internet ahead of its release, the gaming giant says.
James Burt, 24, of Sinnamon Park in Queensland will pay Nintendo $1.5 million after an out-of-court settlement was struck to compensate the company for the loss of sales revenue.
Nintendo said the loss was caused when Burt made New Super Mario Bros for the Wii gaming console available for illegal download a week ahead of its official Australian release in November last year.
Under Australian law, copying and distributing games without the permission of the copyright holder is a breach of the Copyright Act.
Nintendo applied and was granted a search order by the Federal Court forcing Burt to disclose the whereabouts of all his computers, disks and electronic storage devices in November.
He was also ordered to allow access, including passwords, to his social networking sites, email accounts and websites.
The matter was settled between Burt and Nintendo last month.
Burt will have to pay Nintendo’s legal bill of $100,000, the Federal Court in Melbourne ordered on January 27.
Nintendo said in a statement today it was able to trace Burt by using sophisticated technological forensics after the game was uploaded to the internet.
“Nintendo will pursue those who attempt to jeopardise our industry by using all means available to it under the law,” it said.
Piracy was a significant threat to the gaming business and the 1400 game development companies who contribute to providing games for the company’s platform.
Nintendo Australia managing director Rose Lappin said the illegal upload had marred the release of the new game, which Australia was able to get ahead of other countries, which was unusual.
“It wasn’t just an Australian issue, it was a global issue. There was thousands and thousands of downloads, at a major cost to us and the industry really,” Ms Lappin said.
“It’s not just about us. It’s about retailers and if they can’t sell the games then they have to bear the costs associated with that.
“Once it’s on the internet it’s anyone’s really.”
Ms Lappin said globally the company had a major network against piracy.
AAP”

source: [url] http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/game … -np4i.html[/url]

Oh snapt!

Your an inbecile full stop.

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(@furry)
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Lolpwnt if that was me… id Flea to like japan or something and get a job at nintendo then steal more stoof ;D


   
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No mention in the story about the ability of the guy to pay the fine now or ever. It’s all very well penalising the guy 1.6 million but if there is zero ability to pay the fine it’s a bit bobbla ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜›

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Hang on… so its not jsut because he copied the game, exactly how did he steal it..? If he infiltrated their servers and robbed them of it……


   
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It was released in Australia later than the rest of the world, so he probably got it from one of those other countries and then ripped/uploaded it from Australia.

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No mention in the story about the ability of the guy to pay the fine now or ever. It’s all very well penalising the guy 1.6 million but if there is zero ability to pay the fine it’s a bit bobbla ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜›

It’ll be handled like child support payments. He’ll be forced to pay a percentage of his salary each week or month until he either dies or pays out the debt.

Your an inbecile full stop.

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LOl he got owned but honestly who hasnt downloaed illegal information/software these days. The problem is rising costs while lower salaries, so you expect people to buy games for $100 OR fork up that same price (electrical bill, CD/DVD cost etc) for say 10+ games for many platforms…seriously you do the math here. Companies do the math so the are the winners in the end so why cant others do that…perhaps we should start calling hax/illegalality on companies for cheating us normal workers for supersized costs for items…maybe we should take them all to court.


   
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LOl he got owned but honestly who hasnt downloaed illegal information/software these days. The problem is rising costs while lower salaries, so you expect people to buy games for $100 OR fork up that same price (electrical bill, CD/DVD cost etc) for say 10+ games for many platforms…seriously you do the math here. Companies do the math so the are the winners in the end so why cant others do that…perhaps we should start calling hax/illegalality on companies for cheating us normal workers for supersized costs for items…maybe we should take them all to court.

Where do you come up with all these stupid statements???
$100 per title is cheap when you take into perspective that it most likely cost Nintendo hundreds of millions of dollars to develop one title let alone the production and advertising costs.

Your an inbecile full stop.

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LOl he got owned but honestly who hasnt downloaed illegal information/software these days. The problem is rising costs while lower salaries, so you expect people to buy games for $100 OR fork up that same price (electrical bill, CD/DVD cost etc) for say 10+ games for many platforms…seriously you do the math here. Companies do the math so the are the winners in the end so why cant others do that…perhaps we should start calling hax/illegalality on companies for cheating us normal workers for supersized costs for items…maybe we should take them all to court.

Where do you come up with all these stupid statements???
$100 per title is cheap when you take into perspective that it most likely cost Nintendo hundreds of millions of dollars to develop one title let alone the production and advertising costs.

It costs BOBBLA all for major companies to develop things IN THE END. The bigger the company the more they will produce and the more they will want to rip money of normal citizens. Ita all about profit for them and what ever the economical changes, or wages of people in countires, they will NOT lower their EOFY (end of financial year) profit $$$…only increase it. This is the general equation that companies/businesses follow. Why do you think banks have increased the rate few times aleready just after we barely got past recession…because they want to keep their net profit OR increase it…they dont want to lose money and like hell they will do anything in their power to benefit their own.


   
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It costs BOBBLA all for major companies to develop things IN THE END. The bigger the company the more they will produce and the more they will want to rip money of normal citizens.

Shows how much you know about business.
For starters “IN THE END” may as well cost them nothing but to start a new project they’ll require millions. Larger developers are capable of producing more titles because they have a constant cash flow to fund their projects. I doubt any of them are ‘ripping’ consumers off since developers take years to complete a title which costs them millions to finish and support. So where do you think the money comes from to pay all the expenses during the development phase???

Ita all about profit for them and what ever the economical changes, or wages of people in countires, they will NOT lower their EOFY (end of financial year) profit $$$…only increase it. This is the general equation that companies/businesses follow. Why do you think banks have increased the rate few times aleready just after we barely got past recession…because they want to keep their net profit OR increase it…

Of course the main goal of any business is to make money and increase profits, any business that doesn’t will most likely be one of those failed statistics.
In relation to banks interest rate hikes, they do that in accordance to official Reserve Bank rates.

they dont want to lose money and like hell they will do anything in their power to benefit their own.

Now what kind of business will be happy to purposely lose money???

Your an inbecile full stop.

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It was released in Australia later than the rest of the world, so he probably got it from one of those other countries and then ripped/uploaded it from Australia.

But in the article it said:

Nintendo Australia managing director Rose Lappin said the illegal upload had marred the release of the new game, which Australia was able to get ahead of other countries, which was unusual.

Dunno, pretty badly worded tbh.

The problem is rising costs while lower salaries, so you expect people to buy games for $100 OR fork up that same price (electrical bill, CD/DVD cost etc) for say 10+ games for many platforms…seriously you do the math here. Companies do the math so the are the winners in the end so why cant others do that…perhaps we should start calling hax/illegalality on companies for cheating us normal workers for supersized costs for items…maybe we should take them all to court.

Salaries going down you reckon? heh. As for everything else you wrote I’m sure it’s all wrong but I can’t comprehend enough of what you said to pull it apart.

It costs BOBBLA all for major companies to develop things IN THE END. The bigger the company the more they will produce and the more they will want to rip money of normal citizens. Ita all about profit for them and what ever the economical changes, or wages of people in countires, they will NOT lower their EOFY (end of financial year) profit $$$…only increase it. This is the general equation that companies/businesses follow. Why do you think banks have increased the rate few times aleready just after we barely got past recession…because they want to keep their net profit OR increase it…they dont want to lose money and like hell they will do anything in their power to benefit their own.

This is hilarious, it’s like you’ve just discovered capitalism. Firms want to make profits? no kidding? “This is the general equation that companies/businesses follow.” hahaha. You’ve certainly got them sussed. As for them “ripping money of normal citizens” I assume you are still referring to what you see as “supersized costs for items”. Lol they can’t just set the price at whatever amount they want, it’s price elasticity that sets it. If their market research told them they would sell enough copies at a lower price to make a larger gross profit than at a higher price they would set their prices lower. There isn’t some prick sitting at a desk who decides to charge a lot to “rip money of normal citizens”.


   
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There isn’t some prick sitting at a desk who decides to charge a lot to “rip money of normal citizens”.

Companies will do anything NOT to lose money, including hiring ‘pricks’ to run them. This case for nintendo is not about getting money BUT about trying to scare people not to pirate their software.

Just ask yoursefl WHY people do it (obtain illegal material/software) from internet. I can tell you its because of two things:

1) Its much easier to obtain.
2) Costs virtually nothing.

Now think why Napster was “forced” to change their site to release legal material which you have to pay for by say monthy fees…because companies got scared that their yearly profit would be less and thus filed a legal suit with Napster. IMO this deal fits well with the above two points which I outlined in terms of consumers following them.

Companies will always be the frontier of ripping people of and the longer the chain from ‘product line to shelf in shop’ is the more the consumer would have to pay so what better way than buy/download directly over internet at lowest price. This kind of behaviour by consumers (downloading illegal material) will always be used and one case, heck even lots of cases, will not stop it. In the end we (consumers) are the ones who will be buying the product(s)…and instead download illegal material is a way by which we say….IT COSTS TOO MUCH!


   
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It was released in Australia later than the rest of the world, so he probably got it from one of those other countries and then ripped/uploaded it from Australia.

But in the article it said:

Nintendo Australia managing director Rose Lappin said the illegal upload had marred the release of the new game, which Australia was able to get ahead of other countries, which was unusual.

Dunno, pretty badly worded tbh.

Oh my bad. I read it as the other way around. The gist of my post is still there though, he got it before it was released in other countries and hence the upload would be before it is out. Thanks for pointing that out though frog ๐Ÿ™‚

@death, If you started a company and some douche came along and started stealing your merch and sold it a flee market for half the price, wouldn’t you want to sue the pants of the twat to get that money back? Now I get the internet and digital media is completely different, but farout please don’t start arguing on this topic it is simply too huge to even get started on and it will just end in flames.

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@triggs I have no intention in starting flame wars between my POV and others BUT there have been numerous occurances of companies charging too much for their product and BANKS are worst of them. As for me selling merhcandise…I would do it at a reasonable cost that would not force other to try and sell it at lower costs than mine.

I dont want to pay $100 for a new game and alot of other people would agree with me…its just too much IMO and the price CAN be lowered but it wont because companies will never consider lowering their bench mark $$$ gain.

Good business means customers are happy and I would not be happy with a $100 tag on a new game so obviously some people (not talking about myself; i just dont buy it or wait till the price goes down) might consider “other method(s)” obtaining an item at a lower price….I bet some of you have in the past.


   
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(@nelots)
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@triggs BUT there have been numerous occurances of companies charging too much for their product and BANKS are worst of them. As for me selling merhcandise…I would do it at a reasonable cost that would not force other to try and sell it at lower costs than mine.

Triggerhawk said someone stole your merchandise and sold it at half your price. Learn to read and respond to other peoples posts please.

I dont want to pay $100 for a new game and alot of other people would agree with me…its just too much IMO and the price CAN be lowered but it wont because companies will never consider lowering their bench mark $$$ gain.

Do you even understand why they need to sell at an inflated price for at least the first quarter of the products release???
Advertising and promotions costs are astronomical thus they need to sell new products at such a price. They don’t set the price on what they feel like charging.

Good business means customers are happy and I would not be happy with a $100 tag on a new game so obviously some people (not talking about myself; i just dont buy it or wait till the price goes down) might consider “other method(s)” obtaining an item at a lower price….I bet some of you have in the past.

That’s why you’re not the targeted consumer for new release products, the initial promotion is aimed at fan boys and those with deep pockets.
Maybe work harder and one day you’ll be able to earn above award wages?

Your an inbecile full stop.

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