umm guys, this is the internet okay? No agreeing to disagree allowed here!

So much derping, theres a big difference between backflipping and not having the numbers to pass the bills let along support from your own party.

The measures Wilkie had in mind for the pokie reform was way too drastic for any government whether they were majority or minority to undertake in such short a time frame.

Same-sex marriage, Gillard has always said that she did not believe in it but put it to a conscience vote due to popular demand from electorates.

Health reform, yes the general reform was from Rudd but he wasn’t able to get an agreement from all States so it was pretty much all talk no action.
Few months after Gillard ousted Rudd, the pipeworks for Health reform was laid and Roxon basked in the limelight.

Carbon Tax, whether you believe in it or not its up to your own judgement but the general idea is more beneficial to the country than the alternative plant 20million trees.

The problem with Australian industry is that they dont innovate to improve production, major reforms such as the Carbon Tax will help it along. Steel works and other manufacturers are sitting on 60yr + old machinery, its no wonder why theyre incapable of competing with international suppliers.

Also all this crap about other countries not having a “Carbon tax” scheme in their economy is getting old. Do some research, theres plenty of places with Carbon Tax type schemes in place and theyre doing fine.

Even the major emitters of carbon emissions have placed trials or plans to implement a carbon tax type bill to their economy within the next 5yrs.

So should Australia roll out the carbon tax, YES its time after over 10yrs of mass debating on the issue.

i hope kevin rudd wins because he once gave me $900. so he is #1 in my eyes

The rational, calm and measured political discussion here (with the exception of Blusky <3) is unAustralian.

Who are you all?

Julia gillards house is around the corner from me lewl go u cutie ranga !!!