I disagree Death.

I are a noob and I voice my opinion all the time that the spawn shield is broken. 😛 hehe

Lets take things a little back…anyone recall the shield times on the previous servers we all played on??? Huuh? Cos I can tell you they were in the ball part of 2-3sec above default…AND NO-ONE EVER COMPLAINED unless it went overboard above the the 6-7sec time we have now.

Previous servers? As in previous Oz servers or other servers around Australia??
I’m pretty sure other servers around Australia had default spawn shield periods, with Oz it was pretty much all over the place as they tried to ‘balance’ the game around with multiple spawn script trials and etc.

I know WTF Mess is talking about but you cannot take the parts from spawn straight to the truck in ONE GO; Youre assuming that there are no enemies in your way, nor obstructing fire OR team mates also trying to move around the playing field…seriously all the previous servers had above default shield times. I do agree that some maps put both sides too close to each other and both parties may reach a point while still in god-mode BUT take into account the chance of that happening and you should know that its s**t-f**k-all (especialy due to the fact that spawn times are different for both sides).

Do you even read or still in Death’s world??? Mess said his done it, G-string has mentioned that his also done it. It is not hard to strafe jump downhill to the truck, even if an enemy is shooting at you it’ll only help the carrier reach the truck even faster since with god mode, the carrier wont be hurt by the bullets but instead will be pushed forwards faster to the truck.
Also what does different spawn times have to do with this discussion? Oh right its advantageous to the side whose doing the objective.

IF the spawn shield is obstructing gameplay around objectives then fair enough (lower it by 1-2sec)

Are you reading other people’s posts or are you still oblivious to the happenings of the world around you?

but considering the fact that most good players stack team anyways on OZ its fair to give the noobs more of a fighting chance…funny how the good players are annoyed with this yet noobie players dont voice their opinion…

Can’t blame players now since ATB is throwing players around like a game of hot potatoes.

I’m not on a high horse, I was just asking for the facts 🙂
Firstly, most of those quotes were done when the spawn time was at about 10 seconds. Now it is at 6. So for one thing, you can take that into consideration. Secondly, you bring up the taking of objective again and again, which again I will quote this:

The latest change will stop those being able to take an objective under invul so that complaint will be cleared up as soon as the new build comes on.

Due to that, points 2 and 3 will not be a problem. To put it in plain English for you so you understand this time, IF YOU GET ANY OBJECTIVE YOUR INVUL WILL DISAPPEAR AND YOU CAN KILL THEM AS SOON AS THEY TOUCH IT.
Map crossfire I think is a very small thing that happens on most maps with the spawn shield, again I reiterate, only a small portion get the increased spawn time of 6 seconds, otherwise they get around 4 seconds (aka the old default spawn) otherwise they have a default of 3 seconds. The only ones that bitch and moan about the shield is those that are close to spawn wanting to camp them. I myself have been annoyed at the shield when I have been on a streak and camping, only to be killed with someone who got the long spawn and killed me. That’s good, it showed it worked.
Anyway, there is quite a lot of moaning for such a little thing. You are only annoyed because now you can’t just time their spawns like you used to. Now that it is a variable number, you cannot judge when to prime a perfect nade perhaps.
What I do find funny though, is that for all this QQing about reactor, that is such a small part of the map. Do you not think that the creator kind of intended that first part of the map to be reasonably quick by putting the parts next to allied spawn and having a tunnel that goes about half way to the truck connected to the allied spawn? I do find it funny also because axis usually camp the crap out of allies and allies sometimes never even get to the next stage. Either way, a lot of the points are moot, when the new build goes up you can’t mess with the objective and thus your main complaint will be rectified.

Cheers

Trigger: Not good enough.

I can tell that there is a lot of thought going into it. Except for the one gigantic fact: It was better before u touched it.
That goes for both the spawn shield and ATB. 😛

Why on earth did u allow spawn killing with light weapons, only to whore out the spawn shield? Cmon this is silly. Return spawn shield to its default short time. We are not interested in new amazing features. We just want it back to how it was.

Due to that, points 2 and 3 will not be a problem

What does being forced to change mine placement have to do with being invul with the objective?

Now we have the expected reply of illogical points and false assumptions…

Map crossfire I think is a very small thing that happens on most maps with the spawn shield, again I reiterate, only a small portion get the increased spawn time of 6 seconds, otherwise they get around 4 seconds (aka the old default spawn) otherwise they have a default of 3 seconds.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Many players can reach 6 seconds easily. Map crossfire is ruined on many maps.

The added time doesn’t hurt my stats at all, it’s not about that anyway. It ruins gameplay.

Either way, a lot of the points are moot, when the new build goes up you can’t mess with the objective and thus your main complaint will be rectified.

It wasn’t my main complaint, my other points are still extremely valid – you haven’t really argued against them. Well except for (u just like 2 sk lol)

I can tell that there is a lot of thought going into it. Except for the one gigantic fact: It was better before u touched it.

Take cakes advice. You haven’t even tried default invulnerability. See if anyone complains, remember there’s only light weapon SK. I mean actual players complaining, not peanuts like grumpyoldman and goateynader.

Previous servers that many of us played on: Optus, Internode, PTGN, OGN, MOFO server, and now OZ. (plus some other AUS based servers)

Like I said before…none of you complained about this when SK was not allowed ALL TOGETHER…since we can SK with light weapons suddenly after fixing the spawn shield thing (shield bubble around spawns), some of you argue that its too long now. If, in general, the 6sec spawn shield does not alter the entire maps gameplay then deal with it. I will bet any money that the good players who are QQing have ‘easier SKing’ on their mind as the result of decreasing shield time…come cough up to it…you know it would make it easier for you.

Perhaps if we were to remove ATB and teams were not stacked then going from 6 to say 4sec would suffice for a good gameplay…

I’m up for trialing it though, just like we did with light weapon SKing…this I think will be the best way. I know what kind of players play here and I can see how teams get stacked so IF you think that 4sec shield would be fine then TRIAL IT…lets see what happens then…better than trying to argue and convice each other.

Its a fact of life that if youre not a good player, joining a server of good players means you are going to get toasted.
Thats what the game is.

Its also why those with more experience in ET gain more abilities. Have you guys seen the badges you get? Double pistols etc?

THIS IS WHY THE GAME IS GOOD. Dont increase spawn shield in aid of helping noob players. It wont work. All its doing is goofing with gameplay.

Listen to what Death says. Or else he’ll get mad. And u dont want him to get mad. Many a hours getting teabags in ones face is not good.

Can we please just go back to when OZ server was cool and the girls went around topless

Lol cake – you posted this after trigs had already [url]turned off the spawn shields[/url].

Can we all please send Trigs a big happy thankyou PM.

Now we all need something new to rage about. What about pants? Dont you all hate pants?

Oh yays thank u triggers

I havent been on in a few days cos i was sick of the annoying atb and spawn shield. i are go on soon to say hello and v57

Default Spawn Shields

No spawn killing

Default Spawn Shields

No pants.

is there a breeze in here?