1) Panzers can /kill as well
2) People will still /kill on panzers
3) /kill is an important part of ET
3)

Thus, the panzers will feel that things are fairer for them.

Rocket vs SMG – Nuff said. Pretty sure if anything, panzers have an advantage with a SMG + ROCKET LAUNCHER. “MEDS CAN SELF PACK” Not if you kill them in one hit.

Please go into further detail about why it’s ‘gay’ that people /kill. I find it amusing how no ‘med whore’ cares if they go panzer and people /kill on them. It’s the people that can’t aim that whinge about /kill or medics being overpowered Fair game to me – try working for your kills.

i agree. /kill ends a spree

if /kill ends a spree /kill’ing away fomr combat should not count as a death (which it does i’ve tested it)

Fair game to me – try working for your kills.

tell me what’s fair about your cfg blusky?

Fair game to me – try working for your kills.

tell me what’s fair about your cfg blusky?

Other than everything? If we’re going by GA competition settings and cvar limits – then everything is fair about my config. Cheers for the insult though…

Back on topic – people will /kill more if the change you are proposing was enforced, not only on panzers but everytime when they think they’re going to die.

1) Panzers can /kill as well
2) People will still /kill on panzers
3) /kill is an important part of ET
3)

Thus, the panzers will feel that things are fairer for them.

Rocket vs SMG – Nuff said. Pretty sure if anything, panzers have an advantage with a SMG + ROCKET LAUNCHER. “MEDS CAN SELF PACK” Not if you kill them in one hit.

Please go into further detail about why it’s ‘gay’ that people /kill. I find it amusing how no ‘med whore’ cares if they go panzer and people /kill on them. It’s the people that can’t aim that whinge about /kill or medics being overpowered Fair game to me – try working for your kills.

@2) I did say that.
@3) Default ET has no fear. I am nowhere saying to abolish /kill, I am saying to abolish fear. /kill is a very important part of cheating people out of kills in ET.
@3) that I would presume is meant to be 4) Extra health + regen + pack self is more powerful than panzer with nerfed damage area.

/kill is just cheating another player out of a kill. That and respawning for OBJ/ammo is all that it is ever used for. If you are going to /kill, you should lose your spree, as a spree is that many kills with out a death, and it should be a death if you get to teleport away to your spawn and start out with full health and ammo. If you didn’t /kill, the panzer would kill you, and your spree would end, so by /kill-ing you not only get to cheat the soldier out of a kill, but you also get your spree continued with you teleporting to an area with no or less enemies and refilled health and ammo.

Med whores have above average SMG skills typically. They have a greater chance of killing an enemy when they miss with a panzer than an ordinary soldier does. If you’re suggesting that only people with SMG skills deserve to get kills, then why not abolish all classes other than engineering with SMG? Oh, that’s right, because it’s stupid and no one other than you actually thinks that.

And like Gema said, half your skill is in your config, which on almost all of the stricter US or Euro servers would get you kicked for cvar violations. You admitted on Adlernest today that your ‘instant prone’ is from your m pitch and maxpackets values.

I didn’t say /killing was gay, only that /killing to keep your spree, or /killing to cheat a player out of a kill is.

If you’re going to die either way, why not let the panzer get the kill? Because there is the advantage of keeping your spree. Thus, if /killing ending sprees is applied, the only people who /kill for panzers will be those trying to cheat a panzer out of an extra kill.

@ Joke: /killing away from combat teleports you to your spawn with full health and ammo, which should count as a death. If you’re an engy in the middle of nowhere with no SMG ammo and ~10 hp, chances are you’re going to die, so if you /kill instead of being found by/finding an enemy to kill you, it should count as a death.

@ Blusky’s new post: Exactly. You /kill on me, I get to /kill on you. You cheat me out of a kill, I cheat you out of one.

Fair game to me

*EDIT*
Whoops. Forgot to include subtle/not subtle comments about your team stacking skills this afternoon. You rainbow and rampage did awesome, limiting axis to having less people, at one stage all of whom had a kd of less than 2, while all but one guy on allies had a kd of greater than 2 (the guy who had a kd less than 2 on allies was like 1.8 or something). But I’m pretty certain you said kd doesn’t matter, so I’m certain that teams were nice and even and you were doing your duty as an oz member to keep them like that. And rainbow, when teams were 5v8, telling the guys on his team to move instead of one of you three ‘skilled’ oz players moving yourselves. What a class effort. You three deserve medals for going above and beyond to ensure that teams are fair and that there is no sking by coverts in disguise in the other team’s spawn and that everyone enjoys themselves.

nothing wrong with /kill at all infact bring back how it used to be, when u /killed it didnt count as a death
epic sprees > limits on everything..

panzers have it good enough, every class is fairly well balanced atm

/kill is just cheating another player out of a kill.

So you want to increase the amount of ‘cheating players out of kills’?

And like Gema said, half your skill is in your config, which on almost all of the stricter US or Euro servers would get you kicked for cvar violations. You admitted on Adlernest today that your ‘instant prone’ is from your m pitch and maxpackets values.

Do you have evidence of your claims?
How much difference are the euro configs compared to AU? You seem to know a bit about it, fill us in.
If i’m EXPLOITING why would OZ let me in the clan, why wouldn’t they ban such a player?

You absolute spastic. Do you even know what those commands do? If Steady eddy kills me and I dont even see him and I go “STEADY WTF???” and he replies “YER IM HACKEN” Does that mean we should ban steady eddy because he’s admitted to hacking? Take a joke mouth breather mcgee.

If your change goes through there will be far more /killing – medics will still reign supreme and panzer noobs will still be panzer noobs.

Are you raging about this because I /killed on your panzer and the v54’d and v56’d – Lol, sad.

/kill is just cheating another player out of a kill.

So you want to increase the amount of ‘cheating players out of kills’?

Yes. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Like I said in the bottom of my previous post.

And like Gema said, half your skill is in your config, which on almost all of the stricter US or Euro servers would get you kicked for cvar violations. You admitted on Adlernest today that your ‘instant prone’ is from your m pitch and maxpackets values.

Do you have evidence of your claims?
How much difference are the euro configs compared to AU? You seem to know a bit about it, fill us in.
If i’m EXPLOITING why would OZ let me in the clan, why wouldn’t they ban such a player?

Euro scrim servers have tighter mpitch and yaw limits than GA, as well as several other limitted cvars. They use quite similar configs to servers streaming to PBBans or PSB. +-.0015 I think, or perhaps that is GA. Hence why they think australian competitive et is a joke. Rarely will you find a euro player who takes an average australian et player seriously. The massive difference in skill is due to the harsher config limits imposed on them. Also why they’re better than US players typically.

You yourself said on Adlernest that your ‘instant prone’ was due to the combination of your m pitch and maxpackets cvars when Gemanix asked. That was all I said.

You absolute spastic. Do you even know what those commands do? If Steady eddy kills me and I dont even see him and I go “STEADY WTF???” and he replies “YER IM HACKEN” Does that mean we should ban steady eddy because he’s admitted to hacking? Take a joke mouth breather mcgee.

I’ve played ET for longer than you and I’d say yes, given that I was being taught by *Evil*Clan – one of the more talented US clans scrim-team wise – about four years ago, I do know what those settings do. YOU were the one who said ingame that it was your combination of settings that gave you your ‘instant’ prone when Gema asked.

If your change goes through there will be far more /killing – medics will still reign supreme and panzer noobs will still be panzer noobs.

Then I don’t see what your problem with it is? I’m just making it easier for everyone to /kill and stopping killing sprees from being a joke like they are now.

Are you raging about this because I /killed on your panzer and the v54’d and v56’d – Lol, sad.

Hardly raging. Common sense that /kill should end a spree, Gema agrees. You were the first person to disagree with my post, hence why the argument is between the two of us. The comments about your team stacking were already passed onto BR over MSN, however I wanted you to see first hand that I think you’re excellent in your role as an OZ member at moderating the server.

I always thought killingsprees were ment to be how many kills you can get before dieing not how many kills you can get an entire map cause you /kill before death so you dont die and lose your sprees f1 to /kill = loss of spree its called /kill for a reason… you know killing yourself man up and use !gib Furry like i do 😀 you lose sprees autoamticly that way too ;3

Euro scrim servers have tighter mpitch and yaw limits than GA, as well as several other limitted cvars. They use quite similar configs to servers streaming to PBBans or PSB. +-.0015 I think, or perhaps that is GA. Hence why they think australian competitive et is a joke. Rarely will you find a euro player who takes an average australian et player seriously. The massive difference in skill is due to the harsher config limits imposed on them. Also why they’re better than US players typically.

Taken from EuroCup server config.
# cl_maxpackets IN 30 100
# cl_timenudge EQ 0
# rate IN 7000 25000
# snaps IN 20 40
# m_pitch OUT -0.015 0.015
# m_yaw IN -0.022 0.022

Hmmm, alot like OZ and pretty much all ETPro servers.

There are Australian players that can/could hold their own against top euro players – the only difference is population and how small AUS competitive ET is compared to Euro.

You yourself said on Adlernest that your ‘instant prone’ was due to the combination of your m pitch and maxpackets cvars when Gemanix asked. That was all I said.

Ok here’s my prone script to clear things up for you skeptics, straight from my config:

bind x “+prone”
Nice, eh? As I said it was simply a joke. Should I just answer “I press X” next time someone asks me? Many times i’ve answered the same response to people.

I’ve played ET for longer than you and I’d say yes, given that I was being taught by *Evil*Clan – one of the more talented US clans scrim-team wise – about four years ago, I do know what those settings do. YOU were the one who said ingame that it was your combination of settings that gave you your ‘instant’ prone when Gema asked.

What exactly did they teach you? How to miss with panzers? -__-.

Hardly raging. Common sense that /kill should end a spree, Gema agrees. You were the first person to disagree with my post, hence why the argument is between the two of us. The comments about your team stacking were already passed onto BR over MSN, however I wanted you to see first hand that I think you’re excellent in your role as an OZ member at moderating the server.

It wont fix anything though – panzer noobs will still be unhappy. I don’t think I made any comments about team stacking, nor did rainbow. We were going to shuffle at the end of the map. Regardless of what you say i’m sure others can vouch for myself and rainbow moderating well.

lol admiral, Australian players can not only hold there own but we do quite well, lets take quakecon for instance modus operandi smashed everyteam they played cruising to the quarter finals only to get beaten by a really really good team (which i think ended up winning) and another example is the ET World Cup in which we even beat Belgium and heaps of other teams.
Australia has always done well on the world ET stage, and Rico,Maxxx,Shaggy players like that are more then capable of taking it to anyone in the world

bind x “+prone” Nice, eh?

ZOMG HAX! 😮

I’ve played ET for longer than you and I’d say yes, given that I was being taught by *Evil*Clan – one of the more talented US clans scrim-team wise – about four years ago, I do know what those settings do. YOU were the one who said ingame that it was your combination of settings that gave you your ‘instant’ prone when Gema asked.

What exactly did they teach you? How to miss with panzers? -__-.

I lol’d

/kill or be /killed 😀

/kill spree or /kill ends spree…. Care factor = 0 😐

Their is prone delay on the Euro configs..
But I think a few people are loosing sight of the goal of the OZ server, European ETPro settings have nothing to do with OZ, clue up.
Its ETPub, name says it all..