And rainbow, when teams were 5v8, telling the guys on his team to move instead of one of you three ‘skilled’ oz players moving yourselves. What a class effort. You three deserve medals for going above and beyond to ensure that teams are fair and that there is no sking by coverts in disguise in the other team’s spawn and that everyone enjoys themselves.

Lol why bring me into this? Is it because i had a kill streak too?

Quit whining mate.
In regards to the “team stacking”
1) I politely asked if anybody would offer to move
2) I switched to Allies as well.
(and owned blusk lolololololololol)

In regards to the “spawn killing”
If you are referring to player “enZo” I publicly explained to him to move out of spawn, and then we he did not, I !warned him.
If you think you can do a better job at being in the OZ team then apply.

Also, if us “Rambo Meds” have learned to /kill fast enough to avoid panzer,
With your extensive knowledge of .cfg’s and years of game experience, I’m sure somebody like you could create a quick bind to cancel panzer?

Also i want to know why a killing spree is such a big deal? Precious killing sprees? What a joke.
A killing spree is merely a public showing that a player has many kills in a row. Showing this does not improve nor negate a player’s skill, likewise removing the spree will not change the skill of a player.

Rage me all you like in the forums, in game I’m still going to /kill against panzers because i hate them.

P.S: Cheers for the skilled compliment.

Admiral try turning double tap prone off in your ET options matey 😀

iirc Euro config doesn’t have prone delay.. your accuracy is lowered for half a second after you prone. CyberGamer is using this too I think. So no glitchy prone advantage 🙂

Edit; The actual command that decides this might be called pronedelay? Not sure. But It doesn’t slow down the time it takes to prone, just reduces the accuracy of your weapon for a short time.

After RE-reading this whole topic, i had a really good chuckle.
1. /Kill on panzers is always going to happen, If anything with the introduction of “Scared to Death” or “Fear” as u say it makes it even easier for a panzer, i mean pop 1 bullet on him, switch to panzer and boom if he /kills its your kill or you blow him up? Pretty simple i reckon.

2. Why Dont u just go a class thats not easily exploited?? the newbnade in the hands off a pro will win 90% of there fights and its a far more skillfully satisfying class then lolpanzer. And if you have played for 4 years or so and your complete skill is based on a panzer then you Dug your own grave.

3. Why do all you people Blame configs!!! Harden the fuck up, everyone is aloud 1, you have limited your cvars which u want to enforce and if anyone is in breach of those cvars they are instantly kicked…. saying all of bluskys skill is based around his config is laughable. “Insta Prone” i lold hard at this. OZ server has ( i think this is the command ) r_pronedelay 0.. yep… that explains the insta prone…
Most of the worlds best et players configs are widely available how about instead of crying about configs doing this and that, actually grab a few and learn what its about it will improve your game and it takes about 5 minutes to learn how to alter and use. Im about as useless with computers as they come, but damn i write a good config.

4 There will be little to no difference between Euro Comp settings and Australian settings ill assure you, considering most of the aus et admins are euro fanbois
mpitch will always be 0.0151 (well it is here) but anyone with a 1/2 decent mouse will be able to set individual X and Y axises making the policing of mpitching impossible. But its a double edged sword and most of the best players know this. And i Doubt Blusky uses a packetscript which is what i think your implying, Hes not Dongo mate (C WAT I DID DER!!! LOLZ!11)

In summing up, i think admiral was just having a bad night and needed a vent of frustration.
panzer will never be as dominant as u want it to be, the game was made to be enforced by smgrs if you simply cannot handle that then try a new game?

Also im not biased towards Blusky at all we are not friends or anything like that if anything we are competitive rivals 😛 so he doesnt need more to stick up for him but admiral the stuff you are saying is just silly.. /kills are fine the way it is who cares about sprees, a good panzer can completely dominate every map.
Perhaps you should assess your own panzer game and work on improving it..

And rainbow, when teams were 5v8, telling the guys on his team to move instead of one of you three ‘skilled’ oz players moving yourselves. What a class effort. You three deserve medals for going above and beyond to ensure that teams are fair and that there is no sking by coverts in disguise in the other team’s spawn and that everyone enjoys themselves.

Lol why bring me into this? Is it because i had a kill streak too?

Quit whining mate.
In regards to the “team stacking”
1) I politely asked if anybody would offer to move
2) I switched to Allies as well.
(and owned blusk lolololololololol)

In regards to the “spawn killing”
If you are referring to player “enZo” I publicly explained to him to move out of spawn, and then we he did not, I !warned him.
If you think you can do a better job at being in the OZ team then apply.

Also, if us “Rambo Meds” have learned to /kill fast enough to avoid panzer,
With your extensive knowledge of .cfg’s and years of game experience, I’m sure somebody like you could create a quick bind to cancel panzer?

Also i want to know why a killing spree is such a big deal? Precious killing sprees? What a joke.
A killing spree is merely a public showing that a player has many kills in a row. Showing this does not improve nor negate a player’s skill, likewise removing the spree will not change the skill of a player.

Rage me all you like in the forums, in game I’m still going to /kill against panzers because i hate them.

P.S: Cheers for the skilled compliment.

Basicly please don’t just jump on new mewmber’s as thats what Rainbow is, As he is new he is bound to stuff a few things up.If you have a complaint you seem to know where the forum is, so PM a Forum admin to have any said issue dealt with.
But in this case i can’t quite see what Rainbow did wrong there is NO rules stating OZ members are to be the first to change teams when/if they are stacked.
In future i suggest you just ask nicely if nothing is done well tuff biccies.

Rainbow didn’t stuff anything up, nor did I – Admiral is just shit stirring. Maybe you could go back to clan *Evil* or whatever the panzer miss /kill whinging team was and they can teach you not to be an ignorant fool. Half the crap you spit out is absurd.

Regardless of all this bickering – the idea you are proposing will pretty much have a negative effect on the server. I think *most* panzers realize that they’re playing a easy class and if people /kill on them it’s their bad luck.

Maybe you could go back to clan *Evil* or whatever the panzer miss /kill whinging team was

lol

Keep the the topic rolling folks, its a damn fine read.

why are we talking bout panzers.. isnt this bout /kill should end killingsprees?

His complaint was in reference to panzers being cheated of kills.

Hmmm, alot like OZ and pretty much all ETPro servers.

Actually, OZ has pretty much zero constraints on cvars. No PB means no cvar restrictions. A few are forced at the beginning on the map, but aside from that it’s open season.

Forgetting all of the other stupid side arguments … is there a good reason why /kill shouldn’t end sprees? You died, no?

Hmmm, alot like OZ and pretty much all ETPro servers.

Actually, OZ has pretty much zero constraints on cvars. No PB means no cvar restrictions. A few are forced at the beginning on the map, but aside from that it’s open season.

I just realised, if therers time nudge noobs being tools. Why nto just forcecvar it to 0 🙂 I didn’t think of this till today lol :P. BUt yeah just pop it in with the rest of the forcecvars in the server.cfg 🙂

1) You /kill then it should count as a death, it should end the spree you have and on top of that award the kill to the enemy as long as the enemy done some damage to the player who used /kill…simple.

2) Players will always dispute wether /kill on panzers is acceptable or not. I could not care less anymore but if you take a step back and look at this from a global perspective then any weapon used against the enemy whilst producing the frag/kill should be allowed. The primary use of /kill is for tactical reasons and /killing on a panzer to not allow the frag IS NOT TACTICAL…although the situation is unclear in many occasions of wether the player actually /kills due to stop watch timer running out or doing so becasue he cannot defeat the enemy beforehand, the latter not being a tactical decision to use /kill.

3) Proning is one of the worst things you can do while in a dog fight. I will proove this to you (blusky) when/if I get a better connection. You can circle the enemy or just jumper above them..all you need is a quick reflex action downwards with a higher sense mouse…the reason why bluskys proning is effective is becasue majority of players have low sense mouse and higher ping.

4) Last night teams got stacked up badly late on..it was 5 axis meds vs 3 allies. What i hate is that it takes 4hs to kill med or even if you tripple him and body shot…he still survives!!! I found it interesting to go against a stacked opposition and honestly i enjoyed our side getting hammered more but also i managed to hammer them back 😛 either way team stacking is not that bad on OZ but the problem is individuals who get owned by 2-3 players stacking…then those people complain rather than think and work as a team.

5) My faveroutie weapon is panzer…partly because it annoys the crap out of opposition but more so because I enjoy pulling off unbelievable shots with it. I dont care if players /kill on me or i get vapourised by a noob…they killed me before i killed them…simple. In the end its personal choice and point of view but dont forget that you were a noob once yourself.

@BR yes there are players time nudging and the were doing it last night. I highly suspect blusky and messenjach of using this…so please put this cvar in the config ASAP because it is ‘cheating’.

i dont see the problem in leaving /kills for sprees, tbh who does that? i mean really who /kills for a whole map to get a mediocre kill spree..
why cant we just stick with a set of “normal” settings for once :<
if you have a problem with /kill set a limit to 10 or something which gives everyone more then enough /kills to do what ever it is you wanna do with it, whether it be to /kill on a panzer or /kill before spawn for a quick ammo and health fix..

and no offense intended but its usually the people from the lower end of the skill train who complain constantly about this.. most of you guys would of packed off to a new game had u played in the early days when spawn camping artistically was the new black.

@Death
You play better with 400 ping because you’re hard to hit. Prove your point when(if) you’re able…

@BR yes there are players time nudging and the were doing it last night. I highly suspect blusky and messenjach of using this…so please put this cvar in the config ASAP because it is ‘cheating’.

You can /players to see if people are nudging. It’s just a pure insult to say that Messenjah and I are exploiting game mechanics, get a clue. What is your evidence to back up your claims that we are cheating?

Don’t have a limit on /kills – its been tried and tested already, bad idea. IMO it’s fine as it is…

@blusky

Warping when my ping is stable….and it was last night later on when it died down. I had lagometer on screen and no peaking at all while having a dog fight with some of the axis players and they were going in and out of phase. Just because im on dialup doesnt mean this is causing every issue…having dialup basically magnifies the issues so its a different perspective. Something was suss but I know it wasnt my connection at certain times.

Suspecting of someone cheating and saying they are, are two different things…you think its an insult then so be it, im not insulting your ability, i know your a good player but I also have a clue when people tend to exploit config settings, scripting and/or use cheats. I’ve been playing this game for over 3yrs and prior to that I played RtCW so i know what the F im talking about when its a serious topic.

If you say that you do not exploit the game mechanics then your config should be as bare as a babys bottom (i.e. default). One exploint that alot of players do is to turn off arty/airstrike explosions when they hit so they can see through…heck I do it as well but its not because so I can see through and kill, its because so that the game runs smoother and doesnt clutter up (this was a result of too much arty/airstrke back on Internode days). So in effect you are exploiting the game mechanics within setings to benefit you.