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Nice example of packet loss

Inglourious Basterd

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C:\Documents and Settings\me>pathping 202.60.82.196

Tracing route to 202.60.82.196 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 no.home [192.168.1.2]
1 RTA230.home [192.168.1.1]
2 60.234.*.*
3 * ge-0-0-3-201.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.65]
4 ge-0-3-0-0.cre1.sky.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.10]
5 vocus1.ape.net.nz [192.203.154.123]
6 ip-96.192.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.96]
7 ge-0-3-0-130.bdr02.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.81]
8 * as45425.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.193.54]
9 202.60.82.196

Computing statistics for 225 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 no.home [192.168.1.2]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% RTA230.home [192.168.1.1]
10/ 100 = 10% |
2 26ms 10/ 100 = 10% 0/ 100 = 0% 60.234.*.*
6/ 100 = 6% |
3 24ms 17/ 100 = 17% 1/ 100 = 1% ge-0-0-3-201.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.65]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 25ms 17/ 100 = 17% 1/ 100 = 1% ge-0-3-0-0.cre1.sky.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.10]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 25ms 22/ 100 = 22% 6/ 100 = 6% vocus1.ape.net.nz [192.203.154.123]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 49ms 16/ 100 = 16% 0/ 100 = 0% ip-96.192.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.96]
9/ 100 = 9% |
7 49ms 27/ 100 = 27% 2/ 100 = 2% ge-0-3-0-130.bdr02.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.81]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 50ms 25/ 100 = 25% 0/ 100 = 0% as45425.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.193.54]
2/ 100 = 2% |
9 50ms 27/ 100 = 27% 0/ 100 = 0% 202.60.82.196

Trace complete.

Bobbla Interweb :roll:
 

Black Racoon

Head Poncho
Staff member
Damn, Is it maybe just the traffic during an offpeak, onpeak time? Does it always occur? Ask your ISP if thier is any routing issues currently at your local exchange or higher up.
 

Inglourious Basterd

Well-Known Member
The line test to my exchange is clear.

This has happened before but it sorted itself out after a while.

Its been happening for a few hours now though. :evil:

Probably just traffic bottle necking through a fail rout.

I'll ring my ISP tomorrow if it keeps up because I'm too late for
full service tonight (left it too late) doh :roll:

I'll see how it goes tonight.

Cheers.
 

Inglourious Basterd

Well-Known Member
C:\Documents and Settings\me>ping 202.60.82.196

Pinging 202.60.82.196 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Reply from 202.60.82.196: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=118
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 202.60.82.196:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 49ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 49ms

lol :|
 

amacide

ET Moderator
Inglourious Basterd said:
C:\Documents and Settings\me>ping 202.60.82.196

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 49ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 49ms
I don't know about you personally - but I would recommend a virus scan to anyone lagging.

Packet-loss is often a classic sign of trojan infections - randomly activating to send out spam or other malicious activity.
Viruses or trojans hurt ya net by clogging your outbound connection, which causes packetloss... Trojans busy sending spam :(
Viruses and trojans probably the cause of 90% of peoples lag... When I spec I see horrible things on peoples lagometers :lol:

Played about 1000 hours on OZ server and have only lagged maybe 5 to 10 hours all up in that time........... OZ is a solid server.
Of course disregard my comments if: (a) you got a family member on facebook/msn/etc at same time or (b) you're downloading porn :)

PS: get yourself AVG Free if you don't already... Don't trust that Symantec/Mcafee/Norton whatever crap... Just my 2 cents.
 

Inglourious Basterd

Well-Known Member
-OZ-amacide said:
I don't know about you personally - but I would recommend a virus scan to anyone lagging.
Yea, been there done that. Tried on both my OS's, all clean same problem...

Hmmmm, wondering if my modem is playing up, haven't got another to test atm.

Cheers.
 

G-Train

Well-Known Member
We had a customer witht he same prob. After testing everything, it turned out to be the lead in cable. Telcos only test from the Network Boundary point to exchange(So from the road outside your place, to the exchange), they dont test from the road to the socket.

Its pretty rare but it does happen. Id test with a freshly formatted machine first, a couple of different modems and cables, and a different socket to make sure its not from the socket to your box.

GL
 

the whole cake

Well-Known Member
mmmm packets. give me moar.


oh no wait
you have packetloss without lag. that indicates a healthy line. if you has packet loss on the physical layer then u might not even notice it on ip layer.


teh whole cakes official opinion (books in stores now) is that ur modem is cursed. i suggest looking at teh health of the hardware itself. cos if it indeed is a hardware or memory issue then it may appear & disappear without any logical reason.
:flamer:
 

Inglourious Basterd

Well-Known Member
the whole cake said:
mmmm packets. give me moar.
Rofl that sh.it will surely slim you down cake....and then will most likely become the biggest bane of your misery
within the deepest recesses of hell. :p

the whole cake said:
If you has packet loss on the physical layer then u might not even notice it on ip layer.
Just thought I'd post this so people can brush up on thier OSI Layer model and protocols :D

Physical Layer: The physical layer is at the bottom of this data networking model. It deals with crude data that is in the form of electrical signals. The data bits are sent as 0's and 1's. 0's correspond to low voltage signals and 1's correspond to high voltage signals. The mechanical aspects of communication, such as wires or connectors come under this layer. The physical layer also deals with how these wires, connectors, and voltage electrical signals work. Also, the process that is required for these physical aspects are taken into account in this layer itself. Read more on ethernet cable wiring.

The Data Link Layer: The transmission of the data over the communication medium is the responsibility of this layer. The 0's and 1's that are used in the communication are grouped into logical encapsulation. This encapsulation is called frames. The data is transported in frames. The responsibility of these frames is that of the data link layer.

Network Layer: All over the world, there are many different types of ethernets. These networks are connected to each other through various media. When a data packet wants to reach a particular destination, it has to traverse through these networks. Essentially, there are lot of operations that are taking place between the connected networks. Also, the packet data which is traversing, has to choose an optimum route, and the addressing of these packets has to be proper. The various operations between the networks, packet data issues, addressing and routing are handled by this network layer.

Transport Layer:
The transport layer ensures quality and reliability of the communication. The data packet switching is entirely handled by the transport layer. There are basically two types of packet switching. They are connectionless packet switching and connection oriented packet switching. In connectionless packet switching, the packet data is allowed to choose the route in which it is going to reach the destination. Obviously, the packet in itself cant do this. Physical devices like routers are mainly responsible for the behavior of packets, but the packets formed from the same datum can reach their destination in different ways. Whereas, in connection oriented packet switching, once the route is decided, then all the packets have to follow the same route. Examples of connectionless packet switching are text messages in mobile phones, and the example of connection oriented switching is a direct voice call.

The Sessions Layer: The sessions layer is mainly responsible for creating, maintaining and destroying the communication link. PDU (Protocol Data Unit), in which various protocols are defined, that have to be followed during communication, are the responsibility of the sessions layer. The applications that use RPC's (remote procedure calls) are taken care of by the sessions layer.

Presentation Layer: There are various techniques of data compression which are used to send and receive the optimized data. For example, if certain data is repeating itself for a number of times, then it is logical to send the data only once, and specify the number of times it is repeated. This bundling of the repeated data is one of the techniques of compressions. The compression and decompression of the data is handled by the presentation layer. Also, encryption and decryption techniques used to thwart malicious attacks on data are handled by the presentation layer.

Application Layer: This is the topmost layer of the OSI reference model. This layer comes into picture when there is a process to process communication. Whenever a user invokes any application, all the associated processes are run. Many a times, when an application wants to communicate with another application, then there has to be communication between these associated processes. The application layer is responsible for this interprocess communication.

OSI Layer Protocols
Application Layer- DNS, FTP, TFTP, BOOTP, SNMP, SMTP
Presentation Laye -r SMB, NCP
Sessions Layer - NETBIOS
Transport Layer - TCP, ARP, RARP, SPX, NWLINK, NETBIOS
Network Layer - IP, ARP, RARP, ICMP, IGMP
Data link Layer - LLC
Physical Layer - LLC

Now you should all understand your OSI layer model and protocols :?
 

the whole cake

Well-Known Member
Have a look at this table here.

This shows what stacks on top of what. Or to put a better way: What lives inside what. Youll see that the internet runs on lots of things, yet lots of things run on the internet. Teh truth is that u can have the internet on lots of physical mediums. For example: Teh internet runs over ADSL, but it also runs over dialup or CDMA or GSM or anything.

This example here is for the whole cakes setup on ADSL when he has a web page open and when he is playing ET. It shows right from electrical signals on the wire right up to the top. Looking back now it kinda looks like Neapolitan ice cream. Dont eat it tho it has a worm in it.
 

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