i0nwr1t3r
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Hi all,
It appears some of the newer players may need a little advice about landmines & it probably wouldn't hurt for some of the more experienced players to read it too (even if it just to add their perspective!).
So here goes,Landmines on this server are always RED or BLUE Flags about knee high on the ground (RED for Axis ,BLUE for Allies).
Oppositions mines are not visible to players with Battle Sense below 4 (Rank of Major?) look in the bottom left corner of screen between weapons proficiency & current class proficiency (middle column of that square) if you have enough battle sense they will appear as little white circle's (1 for each landmine).
Ng's (Engineers) are subject to being killed by mines from BOTH SIDES, so if you do not know how to jump over a Landmine & cannot run around it go in another direction or DO NOT PLAY an Ng !!!
Covert Ops in Disguise are also subject to the same restriction as Ng's last time I checked but this may no longer be current,so ask or check for yourself.
If you ARE NOT in the above CLASSES you can run over YOUR OWN TEAMS Landmines as much as you want with no harm or penalty but OPPOSITIONS Landmines will still KILL YOU !!!!
If you should set-off a landmine & die,don't file a complaint against the Ng who planted it unless it was OBSTRUCTING the exit to your own spawn & could not be SAFELY BYPASSED or an alternative spawn exit found, if it is in the field & you don't see it or even if you do & you still die that is not the Ng's fault,just remember the location where it happened in the event another landmine is placed there & take care not to make the same mistake.
If you set a landmine off just type V45 (sorry) so the Ng knows it was an accident & is aware if it needs to be replaced,(if you disagree with the placement of the landmine,TELL THEM/SHOW THEM WHERE IT SHOULD GO or in worst case scenario go Ng yourself & INFORM THEM you are RE-ALLOCATING THEIR LANDMINE ,but always give them the opportunity to do it themselves FIRST !!!).
If you are forced to RE-ALLOCATE an Ng's landmine,REMEMBER any kill from it will be credited to the person who planted it LAST but if you are diffusing & then replacing all your other teammates mines with your own in the same spot to STEAL THEIR KILL this is KILL STEALING (Taking credit for a kill that was someone else's work) & don't be surprised if they if they kill you in retaliation.(They might get kicked for it but the satisfaction should justify it).
How To REMOVE LANDMINES
If you are an Ng
Press 5 & you will get a pair of PLIERS,left click to use them & get close enough to diffuse the Landmine (HOLD DOWN LEFT CLICK until mine disappears or BOOM!!!)
This option is good for a small number of individual mines,NOT a LARGE VOLUME of them(Takes far too long & you are vulnerable while diffusing them unless you have some covering you while you are working).
If you are a Covert Ops
Press 7? to bring up binoculars & stare at mines by holding down left click until they are no longer white (this is called spotting landmines & will make enemy mines visible to all members of your team).
This is for ANY VOLUME of MINES & is much faster than an Ng can Diffuse if there are MULTIPLE.
Once they are visible,ANYONE can throw a grenade on them to blow them up but more importantly low level players will be able to see the mines also.(I think spotted mines make them dangerous to all opposition players but I haven't confirmed that).
Any mines spotted by a C.Ops will be visible to all your team members who are not close enough to eyesight it them selves by Pressing G,even if they are on the other side of the map.
Back to Ng's
To plant a landmine press 7 then you will be switched to pliers automatically hold down left click until it turns into a flag.
If you plant to close too another mine it will start too smoke(if mine starts smoking ,use pliers to diffuse it,it shouldn't go off unless you try to move away from it too early)& while you turn to this new problem it may cause the one you just planted to smoke also(keep calm & STAY STILL & use your pliers on them one at a time).
If you see an oppositions mine (if your battle sense is level 4) & it is in the way of your team to reach somewhere useful on the map,IT IS YOUR JOB TO DIFFUSE IT,but if fighting has moved passed that area of the map & the oppositions mines are still there LEAVE THEM,they will have less mines to use against your team when they really need them & nothing P1SSES off an Ng more than being forced to risk their @SS through lost territory to RETRIEVE mines for future use in the map.
REMEMBER, each team has only 12 mines PER SIDE for the duration of the map,whether you have 1 Ng or your whole team are Ng's,so think about where you place each one & make it count!!! because you will not get one back unless it has been set off or diffused.
When you are planting mines you are subject to getting Backraged (ie SHOT IN THE BACK)so check the coast is clear before you start planting & remember DEFEND yourself FIRST then worry about Ng's task's cos DEAD Ng's can't help the team & if you have sound turned on, LISTEN,sometimes you can hear the opposition coming & it could save your life.
Whether you are planting or diffusing if an opposition comes along & you have time to switch to a weapon DEFEND YOURSELF,if you think you have No CHANCE whatsoever of surviving the encounter,FINISH planting the mine you may still get your revenge with that even if you die doing it/if diffusing don't finish diffusing ,switch to weapon & shoot back,if you survive THEN finish diffusing ,if you die (and this applies to all players who are lying on a mine)DO NOT PRESS SPACEBAR ,wait & see if they run past or near you then press spacebar & it will kill them too & opposition Ng who planted it will be credited with a TK (Killing your own team member)but more importantly,that's 1 less player who can attack your team (& it is genuinely funny to watch
)
Don't do the above if your own team are too close ,& don't let any Medic try to revive you while you are lying on a mine,they will die trying to save you.
You can also push an Ng or anyone onto an opposition mine to kill them or an Ng from your own team onto his own mine(but if they survive they will get P1SSED at you)& it may well get you kicked for team bleeding.
There is more you can do with mines but this is supposed to be a NOOBS guide after all.
To all Feel free to reply or post visual aids,Mods Feel free to sticky this thread.
Sorry to all about such an epic post
Cheers
i0n
It appears some of the newer players may need a little advice about landmines & it probably wouldn't hurt for some of the more experienced players to read it too (even if it just to add their perspective!).
So here goes,Landmines on this server are always RED or BLUE Flags about knee high on the ground (RED for Axis ,BLUE for Allies).
Oppositions mines are not visible to players with Battle Sense below 4 (Rank of Major?) look in the bottom left corner of screen between weapons proficiency & current class proficiency (middle column of that square) if you have enough battle sense they will appear as little white circle's (1 for each landmine).
Ng's (Engineers) are subject to being killed by mines from BOTH SIDES, so if you do not know how to jump over a Landmine & cannot run around it go in another direction or DO NOT PLAY an Ng !!!
Covert Ops in Disguise are also subject to the same restriction as Ng's last time I checked but this may no longer be current,so ask or check for yourself.
If you ARE NOT in the above CLASSES you can run over YOUR OWN TEAMS Landmines as much as you want with no harm or penalty but OPPOSITIONS Landmines will still KILL YOU !!!!
If you should set-off a landmine & die,don't file a complaint against the Ng who planted it unless it was OBSTRUCTING the exit to your own spawn & could not be SAFELY BYPASSED or an alternative spawn exit found, if it is in the field & you don't see it or even if you do & you still die that is not the Ng's fault,just remember the location where it happened in the event another landmine is placed there & take care not to make the same mistake.
If you set a landmine off just type V45 (sorry) so the Ng knows it was an accident & is aware if it needs to be replaced,(if you disagree with the placement of the landmine,TELL THEM/SHOW THEM WHERE IT SHOULD GO or in worst case scenario go Ng yourself & INFORM THEM you are RE-ALLOCATING THEIR LANDMINE ,but always give them the opportunity to do it themselves FIRST !!!).
If you are forced to RE-ALLOCATE an Ng's landmine,REMEMBER any kill from it will be credited to the person who planted it LAST but if you are diffusing & then replacing all your other teammates mines with your own in the same spot to STEAL THEIR KILL this is KILL STEALING (Taking credit for a kill that was someone else's work) & don't be surprised if they if they kill you in retaliation.(They might get kicked for it but the satisfaction should justify it).
How To REMOVE LANDMINES
If you are an Ng
Press 5 & you will get a pair of PLIERS,left click to use them & get close enough to diffuse the Landmine (HOLD DOWN LEFT CLICK until mine disappears or BOOM!!!)
This option is good for a small number of individual mines,NOT a LARGE VOLUME of them(Takes far too long & you are vulnerable while diffusing them unless you have some covering you while you are working).
If you are a Covert Ops
Press 7? to bring up binoculars & stare at mines by holding down left click until they are no longer white (this is called spotting landmines & will make enemy mines visible to all members of your team).
This is for ANY VOLUME of MINES & is much faster than an Ng can Diffuse if there are MULTIPLE.
Once they are visible,ANYONE can throw a grenade on them to blow them up but more importantly low level players will be able to see the mines also.(I think spotted mines make them dangerous to all opposition players but I haven't confirmed that).
Any mines spotted by a C.Ops will be visible to all your team members who are not close enough to eyesight it them selves by Pressing G,even if they are on the other side of the map.
Back to Ng's
To plant a landmine press 7 then you will be switched to pliers automatically hold down left click until it turns into a flag.
If you plant to close too another mine it will start too smoke(if mine starts smoking ,use pliers to diffuse it,it shouldn't go off unless you try to move away from it too early)& while you turn to this new problem it may cause the one you just planted to smoke also(keep calm & STAY STILL & use your pliers on them one at a time).
If you see an oppositions mine (if your battle sense is level 4) & it is in the way of your team to reach somewhere useful on the map,IT IS YOUR JOB TO DIFFUSE IT,but if fighting has moved passed that area of the map & the oppositions mines are still there LEAVE THEM,they will have less mines to use against your team when they really need them & nothing P1SSES off an Ng more than being forced to risk their @SS through lost territory to RETRIEVE mines for future use in the map.
REMEMBER, each team has only 12 mines PER SIDE for the duration of the map,whether you have 1 Ng or your whole team are Ng's,so think about where you place each one & make it count!!! because you will not get one back unless it has been set off or diffused.
When you are planting mines you are subject to getting Backraged (ie SHOT IN THE BACK)so check the coast is clear before you start planting & remember DEFEND yourself FIRST then worry about Ng's task's cos DEAD Ng's can't help the team & if you have sound turned on, LISTEN,sometimes you can hear the opposition coming & it could save your life.
Whether you are planting or diffusing if an opposition comes along & you have time to switch to a weapon DEFEND YOURSELF,if you think you have No CHANCE whatsoever of surviving the encounter,FINISH planting the mine you may still get your revenge with that even if you die doing it/if diffusing don't finish diffusing ,switch to weapon & shoot back,if you survive THEN finish diffusing ,if you die (and this applies to all players who are lying on a mine)DO NOT PRESS SPACEBAR ,wait & see if they run past or near you then press spacebar & it will kill them too & opposition Ng who planted it will be credited with a TK (Killing your own team member)but more importantly,that's 1 less player who can attack your team (& it is genuinely funny to watch
)Don't do the above if your own team are too close ,& don't let any Medic try to revive you while you are lying on a mine,they will die trying to save you.
You can also push an Ng or anyone onto an opposition mine to kill them or an Ng from your own team onto his own mine(but if they survive they will get P1SSED at you)& it may well get you kicked for team bleeding.
There is more you can do with mines but this is supposed to be a NOOBS guide after all.
To all Feel free to reply or post visual aids,Mods Feel free to sticky this thread.
Sorry to all about such an epic post
Cheers
i0n
